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Danish Diesel ICE by ZCochrane Danish Diesel ICE by ZCochrane
Hamburg station (Germany) is more than just a little weird, and if you’ve never been here before, you may want to schedule a few extra minutes just to find out where the hell you are and how to get to where you want to. It makes up for that with good-looking architecture and weird trains, though.

One example of the latter would be the class 605, DB first and only high-speed diesel trains. For marketing purposes, they are known as ICE TD. They were ordered together with the well-known class 411 and 415 ICE T EMUs, but never really proved themselves. Despite looking exactly the same (apart from no pantographs, obviously), they are quite different internally, using different tilting mechanisms, and the 605 got the one that didn’t work. Neither did many other components, and their regular service, connecting Bavaria and Saxony, was short and problematic. At only four cars per train, they were also somewhat short for an ICE.

So for some years, they were put into storage, doing precisely nothing. DB tried to sell them, but with their list of problems, buyers weren’t exactly knocking over the door. Rumor has it that a sale to Iran was blocked by export control, because the tilting technology was actually derived from the Leopard 2 main battle tank.

Starting with the soccer world cup 2006, though, DB started to get them out again, because every train was needed. After some minor refurbishing, a few of them started to run again as special trains. They finally found their true calling when AnsaldoBreda started to fail to deliver new high-speed trains to danish DSB on time (belgians and dutch here, does that sound familiar?). The most direct connection from Hamburg to Copenhagen is the Vogelfluglinie/Fugleflugtslinien (bird flight line) via Lübeck, Puttgarden and Rødby. It is not electrified yet, so the ICE TD was a perfect match. The short length of the trains is also practical, because there is a huge stretch of baltic sea in the middle of the route, with a bridge being a far-off goal at best (although the danish are arguing for it heavily). That means the trains have to be loaded onto a ferry. To my knowledge, this is the only case of high-speed trains going part of their normally scheduled line by ship anywhere in the world.

For this service, the trains received some overhaul and also DSB logos in place of the DB ones. That is something of a lie, as all other markings clearly show that this train is registered in Germany and owned by DB, but if it makes the danish feel better…

By the way: I recently heard about a proposal to use ICE TD trainsets in California, sort of as a preview of the future high speed rail line. I can think of quite a number of reasons why this is an incredibly stupid plan, but it would be fun to see if they managed to pull it off. Do any californians reading this know more about that?
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soli01 Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013
do u allow me to use this image for digital image manipulation.
i wanna use this image just for manipulation not for commercial or business purposes....!!
ZCochrane Featured By Owner Jun 2, 2013  Student Photographer
This file is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 3.0 license. As long as you do what that license asks, you don't even have to ask my permission. But please, actually read and understand that license first. It's really short!
p3rsh1ng Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Isnt it Altona station?
ZCochrane Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013  Student Photographer
No, this is the main station. Altona is the other of Hamburg's stations, and considerably less stylish.
p3rsh1ng Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Well all those adverts and MacDonalds dont seem very stylish to me :( But thats the nature of a consumer society

Do you have a shot of the Altona station?
p3rsh1ng Featured By Owner Apr 13, 2013
Newer knew there was a diesel ICE.

BTW that station looks immense O_O
engineerJR Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012
Mal sehen, ob die Dänen mit dem bockigen Teil besser zurecht kommen^^
ZCochrane Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012  Student Photographer
Im Vergleich zu den AnsaldoBreda-Dingern, die die bestellt haben, ist sogar der ICE-TD ein wunderbarer Zug. :D
engineerJR Featured By Owner Oct 1, 2012
Ich find die dänischen Gumminasen besser^^
NSLC Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2011
Fine explanation and Denmark is pleased with the ICE train we have as the other trains are still in limited operation.
I saw it in Copenhagen recently and got an ice image [link]
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